Wednesday, April 25, 2012

5 days in paris

Hi i have a chance to spend 5-8 days in France,landing in Paris-never been before-husband wants to try and get to Nice but i think its too far away-2 days in paris-any ideas of what to do with rreamining3-4 days?? jan






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Hi jannievn,



If you do go to Nice, it is a very short flight from Paris. You could break up your time between the two cities.



I don%26#39;t know how you are returning to Vancouver, but I assume you can connect from Nice as well.



Happy Travels.




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I wouldn%26#39;t go to Nice with only 5-8 days available.





You really need a week to begin to see Paris and



can always take a short trip to Versailles or the



Loire. 2 days in Paris? Don%26#39;t shortchange yourself.



I%26#39;ve probably spent 6 weeks in Paris over several visits and there are still all kinds of places I haven%26#39;t seen yet...





With the time you have available Nice would



take up too much travel time getting there and back...





The train is 5 1/2 hours. You need to be at the station 20 minutes in advance plus travel time from your hotel then travel to your hotel in Nice... so you%26#39;ve pretty well lost a whole day. If you have to return to Paris to fly home you%26#39;ll pretty well use up another day.





Air is not much quicker as you have



the travel time to and from airports etc.





So drop Nice, go and enjoy Paris and save the



south of France till the next trip.





Rob




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Welcome to the forum jannievn.





If you need additional input, spent the time in Paris and enjoy the city. See a concert, visit Versailles, explore a different museum. Paris is a magical place to be enjoyed over and over. Settle in for a few days and relax.




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thx. Rob for your imput..




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Hi jannievn,





Welcome to the TripAdvisor forums! It looks like you%26#39;ve already gotten some good advice. Please feel free to post any more questions you might have about your upcoming trip. We have lots of friendly members here who would be glad to help you out.





Have a great time in France, and be sure to tell us about it when you return!





Best regards,



TA_MikeW




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I%26#39;m going to be in Paris for a week in December. It will be my first time too! And already I feel it%26#39;s too short... So like everybody else I would advice you to stay in Paris and enjoy it slowly and maybe safe Nice for other time :)





I don%26#39;t know whether it%26#39;s actually worth a visit or not maybe people who%26#39;s been there can help you out but I%26#39;m planning to go to Chateau Chantilly which is a bit outside Paris city... 1 hour train ride if I%26#39;m not mistaken... maybe you can consider that... or watch Opera and Ballet... or just relax in cafes... wander around, shop, go through flea markets and bookshops and people always say that it gives a different feeling to watch movies in Paris so I%26#39;d do that if I have the time...




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10 days - drive or public transport

Hi



My husband and I are planning a trip in April for 10 days and were thinking about doing the South of France, possibly flying into Marseille (from London).





We do not have any concrete plans and are looking for suggestions. We want to see as much of the beautiful coastal areas as possible, and dont mind travelling 1-2 hours a day. We are 27 %26amp; 30, and just looking to see as much natural beauty and culture as possible. We even considered doing Italy, France and Spain coast in the 10 days but figured that might be over-optimistic.





1. Would you suggest we rent a car or is there adequate public transport along the scenic routes?





2. Any particular route? Or not-to-miss areas?





3. We even considered renting motorhome -but have never done that -is it a cost effective way to travel to see this area??





Thank you!!




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ImpiSa !!!



I would recommend driving. The sea coast areas along the Mediteranean are stunning.



To see a lot, perhaps you could consider flying to Barcelona, returning from Italy, or flying to Toulouse/Perpignan and returning from Nice.



You would have to check on a one way auto rental with drop off.



This way you get the benefit of no backtracking and you could see more.



Have fun !! That is a beautiful time of year to plan a trip like this.




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Thanks!



Unfortunately its about an extra £300-£500 fee if we drop off the car in another country, which I think is a bit much.



So we might try find a central location to hire a car and then do a round trip, seeing the coast and a bit inland....



Its a bit overwhelming all the possibilities!!! But our budget is not that overwhelming :) so trying to see what would be best value.





Thanks again




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ImpiSA !!



Then you can do a beautiful loop trip from Marseille, Nice, or near Spain.



Some of the very beautiful areas are Cassis, Collioure, Villefranche, Menton. The whole coast is very beautiful.



Enjoy !!



Use viamichelin.com, very good for routing, scenic driving and distances.




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I strongly recommend that you rent a car for the entire duration of your stay in the South of France as doing so will enable you to really explore rather than be limited in what you can explore based upon public transportations schedules. Whatever you do I would not recommend renting a motorhome especially because of the cost of fuel.



Ideally you should consider establishing a base for day trips to visit the type of sites that you enjoy, however members of the Trip Advisor Forum will be better set to assist you as to where you might want to base yourselves if you could say a bit more baout your interests than that you %26quot;want to see as much of the beautiful coastal areas as possible%26quot; - do you want to hike, are you also interested in historical sites, food etc...



Also, I recommend that you post your next inquiry on the Provence Forum for more specialized information.



AlpillesGal




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Depending upon where it is you want to visit, there is adequate public transportation, the problem is frequency of service. Having a rental car allows you to make the most efficient use of your 10 days.





Unfortunately, there are too many routes that qualify as %26quot;not-to-miss%26quot; areas in the south of France. Additionally, I should characterize the coastal areas to the west of Marseille (generally flat) are quite different that the areas east (mountainous, cliffs). Of the most compelling coastal visits from the area of Marseille and to the west are Cassis, Saintes Maries de la Mar, and Cassis. The points east are generally better known: Villefranche, Menton, Antibes. These are contrasting areas and there are yet many locations farther inland which could be recommended.





Motor home rental has interesting options: allowing you to avoid hotels and even restaurants if you want. There are many campgrounds in the south but I recommend your checking availability as many may not be open in April. It%26#39;s advantages become less obvious if you want to visit the metropolitan areas. Here is a resource:





http://www.ideamerge.com/





No matter what French forum you post in (and it really does not matter) the best way to obtain specific information is to pose specific questions.




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Correction to previous post:





Of the most compelling coastal visits from the area of Marseille and to the west are Cassis, Saintes Maries de la Mar, and COLLIOURE.





An edit function would work well for me.




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Hi --





You%26#39;ll have a much more satisfying trip if you first read some guide books for the areas that interest you so you have some idea of which stops are best suited to your taste. Then come back to the forum for specifics.





It%26#39;s all well and good for us to tell you where to go, and how to get there, but that%26#39;s our trip and not yours. I always think the investment of time and money is great enough that it deserves enough research to allow you to design a trip that is perfect for you. What we contribute is the icing on the cake.





Re motorhome: Probably not a great decision for first timers in an area with so many accommodation choices and such narrow roads. The mileage isn%26#39;t high but the fuel costs are.





I%26#39;d save this for a different trip where accommodation and restaurants are more sparse on the ground. Generally, it%26#39;s hard to make this choice work in terms of economics unless you dine on board almost exclusively.




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Thanks for all the tips. I think you are right - I will do some more investigation about the area, but the more we think about it, the idea of the motor home will have to wait for another trip.





I%26#39;m going to get reading and surfing the net, but thinking about this as a possible loop:





Fly into any starting point and rent a car:





Marseille - Cannes- Nice - Antibes -Monaco -Menton - up to either Torino or Milan (to see a bit of Italy,so anywhere that is scenic) - Geneva- Villefranche Sur Soane -Marseille





Its about 1200 -1300km but that sounds managable in 11 days.





I%26#39;m concerned because it will be over Easter that I need to get booking soon to get places!!





Thanks all!!!




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It sounds to me as if you are trying to do way too musc in a relatively short time.



If guess the only question is whether you want to %26quot;experience%26quot; the places that are along the way or you will be satisfied with just having driven through so you can say that you%26#39;ve been there. Frankly, that%26#39;s not my vacation style, but, to each his/her own.




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If you have no intention of visiting Cassis, Hyeres, Toulon or St. Raphael, skip Marseille and fly into Nice. What%26#39;s left is still more than sufficient for 11 days.





Avignon, Arles or Aix one week in November

We arrive in Nice from Italy and plan to stay a week in Provence before our final departure from Paris. This is our first visit to the south of France and I have no idea which area would be more central for exploring the region. Avignon (Les Angles), Arles (central) or Aix? Any advice or recommendations would be most helpful at this stage. Thank you.




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The most authentic village - away from the %26quot;tourist - traps%26quot;.




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I urge you to consider using St. Remy as a base for your explorations as it is well situated for exploring all of Western Provence. It has a wonderful %26quot;Provencal%26quot; feeling to it and, while it is large enough to have a number of good restaurants, it doesn%26#39;t have the %26quot;big city%26quot; feel of Avignon.



In order to have access to the entire region you will need a car because access to many towns, via public transportation, is quite limited and will require you to time your explorations based on their timetable rather than yours.




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I second the recommendation of St. Remy. Husband and I spent a week there in June with a rental car. It was fabulous!! Great location. The fartheest place we went was Uzes, for the Saturday market. That was about 1-1/2 hours.





You will love this part of France. Have a great time.




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I think St.Remy could be a good location to explore the surrounding region. The drive from Nice to St.Remy is about 2 hours and this is doable seeing that we arrive in Nice from Italy via the train and plan to take the TGV to Paris from Avignon at the end of our stay.





Thank you for the insight!




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I wouldn%26#39;t hurry out of Nice. There%26#39;s lots to see and do there and in the surrounding area. Maybe spend three nights there, then move on to St. Remy or Avignon.




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I%26#39;ll third St Remy, it%26#39;s divine. IMO Western Provence is much more interesting and prettier than the riviera. I think of Aix Arles Avignon as the golden triangle though my favourite places to actually stay are l%26#39;Isle sur la Sorgue (for weekends) St Remy, Hyeres, Apt and Cassis.




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I think Arles or Avignon could be the best choices if you prefer little towns with history and fine arts. If you prefer a very quiet stay, you can choose St. Remy (I was there last summer) or Gordes in the Luberon, an outstanding region not far from Avignon.




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Thank you. The votes are 3 for St. Remy!!! I will proceed with St. Remy seeing that I have a car I can always explore the other places from there. I am so much looking forward to our visit, I can%26#39;t wait!




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Visit Moet and Chandon

dear friends,





how can we get to Moet and Chandon from Reims center by public transport? is it doable by walking and how long will it take? do we have to make reservation for tour and how? thanks in advance for help.




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Moët and Chandon are in Epernay. Epernay is a 20 minute train ride from Reims (4.40E-5.80E). Buy the tickets at the Reims station ticket counter (French=guichet). The champagne house is a five minute walk from the Epernay train station.





http://www.moet.com/site.php?lg=us





Click %26quot;Guided Tours%26quot; near the bottom right corner. That%26#39;ll give you pricing information. On the left, you%26#39;ll find %26quot;Opening Times.%26quot; For directions, click %26quot;Maps %26amp; Access,%26quot; then click %26quot;By Train%26quot; at the bottom of the map.





The site recommends reservations for tours in French and English. I would shoot them an e-mail using the %26quot;Contact Us%26quot; link near the bottom right corner.




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Find that village!

This is just a shot in the dark. I was an Au Pair in Corsica over twenty years ago, the family had a holiday home where we spent the summer, in a little village about an hour from Bastia. It was up in the mountains and had about 12 houses and a church - thats all! I don%26#39;t remember the name of the village and that is the problem. I am going back to Corsica on holidays in Sept. and taking my husband.I



have a romantic notion of driving back to see the village. I have had no contact with the family since and don%26#39;t even remember their name so I can%26#39;t ask them. Has anyone any suggestions as to the general area I might start looking in? All I remember is that is was the highest village up a very steep and twisty road and you could see other villages all the way down. It was also very green! Not much to go on I know.





Any advice appreciated.





Daisy




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The steep and twisty road to a highest village mean that my money is on Sant%26#39;Antonino. Have a look at: www.francethisway.com/mbv-santantonino.php and see if you can find anything familiar. It is green up there and you should make sure you don%26#39;t go up a cloudy day or the views will be spoilt.





If it isn%26#39;t there, then I think you%26#39;re probably describing one of the Balagna villages you%26#39;ll find to the South of Ile Rousse. You don%26#39;t have to stay in Bastia for these places, both Calvi and Ile Rousse are in easy driving distance.





Good luck!




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Thank you. I will start there and maybe it will all come back to me when I get there!




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I don%26#39;t know - it sounds more like a village in Cap Corse - the bit that looks like a finger pointing up north of Bastia, if you have a look on the map - than Sant Antonino to me i) St A is considerably more than an hour from Bastia ii) it%26#39;s not that high, and the road up to it is not really that steep and windy, and it has many more than 12 houses iii) Cap Corse is particularly green..





Unfortunately I don%26#39;t know Cap Corse at all well, especially not inland, so can%26#39;t be of more help than that.





Other possiblilities could be above St Florent (Oletta, etc) or even the Castagniccia (also very green, full of tiny places, about an hour from Bastia, inland from the coast road south of Casamozza)





have a look at Google maps plus photos and see if that triggers any memories





Best of luck!!




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I would say that your best bets are either the Casinca (perhaps around Penta di Casinca) or the Castagniccia (inland from Moriani Plage).





Neither the Balagne nor Cap Corse are especially green in the summer (which is when you were there). Also you mention that there were only about 12 houses and that you could see other villages all the way down - both of these comments point to these two areas.





Let us know if you find the village.




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You%26#39;re right Balanina. Overlooked the 12 houses bit, although I%26#39;d reckon on not much more than an hour and a bit to get to the Balagna.





Not a windy road? It%26#39;s on the top of a hill - you even have to spiral up to get to it! But even if itsn%26#39;t your village, it%26#39;s well worth a look.




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Daisy,



Can you remember anything about the journey from Bastia to the village (or vice versa)? For example, on what side (left or right) of you was the sea? If on the left I think we are looking at Castagniccia.




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Ok, I do remember that coming back down to Bastia, once we were on the flat again,the sea was on my right and there were fields of vegetables between the road and the sea. I also remember roadside vegetable/fruit shops. One name that does ring a bell was mentioned by balanina - %26quot;Oletta%26quot;, this was, I think either on the way or on a signpost we passed on the way, so would have been somewhere nearby.





Thank you for all your suggestions.




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As I thought, you approached Bastia from the south rather than from the north, suggesting Castagniccia. It may have been Orezza that you remember on signposts. Once down the mountainside you would have been close to a seaside village/resort of Moriani-Plage, on the main road to Bastia. The road down to the coast from the mountains 20 years ago or so would have been particularly terifying, especially on the descent, as it had no barriers and a steep drop. Different from other mountain roads in Corsica because of the lack of vegetation - you could look across the ravines and see the road opposite. Cervione ring a bell?




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If it were the Castagniccia you might remember the distinctive architecture/geology, different from elsewhere in Corsica. The houses and rooves are made of slate, not stone and tiles, and the villages are often perched along the top of ridges, rather than on single pinnacles, as elsewhere in Corsica. Many of the roads are buried under chestnut forests, so very green and shady and often damp - almost like England - compared with the high mountains, maquis or pine forests elsewhere in Corsica. It is also full of tiny hamlets (how will you ever find the right one?)





It sounds as if we%26#39;re getting warm - highly likely to have been the Castagniccia or the Casinca, not least because this was once the most populous part of Corsica, so lots of people have family homes there where they return for the summer.




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Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply. Although the place names suggested do not ring a bell exactly (Orezza maybe), from what you have told me, I think you are right and we are getting warmer. Castagniccia could be the right area, so I am going to start there and drive. I remember the village clearly, there was another church about half way down between %26quot;my%26quot; village and the village below, so I am pretty sure I will know it when I see it. Can%26#39;t understand why I am unable to remember the name of the village, I was there for 3 months! must be the age related memory loss!





Daisy.

Visit Moet and Chandon

dear friends,





how can we get to Moet and Chandon from Reims center by public transport? is it doable by walking and how long will it take? do we have to make reservation for tour and how? thanks in advance for help.




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Moët and Chandon are in Epernay. Epernay is a 20 minute train ride from Reims (4.40E-5.80E). Buy the tickets at the Reims station ticket counter (French=guichet). The champagne house is a five minute walk from the Epernay train station.





http://www.moet.com/site.php?lg=us





Click %26quot;Guided Tours%26quot; near the bottom right corner. That%26#39;ll give you pricing information. On the left, you%26#39;ll find %26quot;Opening Times.%26quot; For directions, click %26quot;Maps %26amp; Access,%26quot; then click %26quot;By Train%26quot; at the bottom of the map.





The site recommends reservations for tours in French and English. I would shoot them an e-mail using the %26quot;Contact Us%26quot; link near the bottom right corner.




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Christmas Eve Mass and restauant, any suggestions?

We will be in Paris from Dec. 21 - 26. Anyone have any suggestions where to go to church and dinner Christmas Eve? We are traveling with two teenagers so want dinner cost to be reasonable.



We are staying in the Latin quarters.





Thanks




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Try typing-in %26quot;christmas mass notre dame paris%26quot; on Google. All kinds of things pop-up , including midnite mass at the Cathedral Notre Dame (very near the Latin Quarter and would probably be quite an experience). There are numerous advertised dinner packages (Google: %26quot;christmas dinner paris%26quot;) but most seem to be quite expensive. Good luck.




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I don%26#39;t know that I%26#39;d recommend Notre Dame for Christmas mass if you are looking for a comfortable (ie, seated) experience without a crowd. However, it may be a good place for awe and pagentry, if you can get in.



You may want to try any one of the hundreds of smaller neighborhood churches throughout the city. There is a partiuclarly quaint one on the Ile St Louis that is just north of the latin qtr. and would probably be my pick for that neighborhood.



For dinner, many of hte chains are open. Perhaps a festive meal at La Coupole would be a good option for your group.




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I have the same question... I%26#39;ll be staying in the Marais (4th) and would like to attend mass and have dinner somewhere on Christmas eve. Since I%26#39;ll be traveling solo I would like dinner to be more informal and comfortable. I appreciate any suggestions.




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For the church nearest you, go to mappy.com and enter the address of your lodgings. The map that appears includes metro stations, churches, gyms, hospitals and parking lots. As you roll your cursor over the Cross Icon a pop up appears with the name of the church. From there it is an easy google to the church%26#39;s website iwth mass times and contact info.



As for restaurants, there willl be plenty open in the Marais, as this is the Jewish qtr. However, I am not sure kosher cuisine would be your idea of the ideal christams dinner (the falafel is world class, though). For a Marais dinner that is not too fancy, but rather festive, try Bofinger. http://www.bofingerparis.com/ Belongs to the same group as La Coupole and there is a good chance they%26#39;ll be open on xmas eve.




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St Eustache and Pied de Couchon are close to each other [Les Halles Metro].




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Christmas Eve mass at Notre Dame will be packed..and unless you get there early, you may get stuck back in the %26#39;cheap seats%26#39;.





But if Paris has an abundance of anything, it%26#39;s wonderful old churches, with extraordinary music...and most pull out all of the stops (no pun intended) for Christmas masses. So there are any number of wonderful alternatives. All have grand organs and fine titular organists. In addition to the liturgy of the mass...most will also have some sort of Christmas Concert performance schedule. A %26#39;..short list..%26#39; for the Left Bank would include--





ÉGLISE SAINT-ETIENNE-du-MONT--Place Sainte-Geneviève (behind Pantheon), 75005--



catholique-paris.cef.fr/diocese/…





ÉGLISE SAINT-SÉVERIN--1, rue des Prêtres Saint Séverin, 75005--



http://www.saint-severin.com/





ÉGLISE SAINT-SULPICE (of %26#39;DaVinci Code%26#39; fame?)--Place Saint Sulpice, 75006--



http://www.paroisse-saint-sulpice-paris.org/



http://www.danielrothsaintsulpice.org/





ÉGLISE SAINT-GERMAIN-des-PRÉS--Place Saint Germain, 75006--



http://www.eglise-sgp.org/





ÉGLISE NOTRE DAME des CHAMPS--92 Blvd.du Montparnasse, 75014--



http://www.paroisse-ndc.com/





ÉGLISE SAINT-LOUIS-EN-L%26#39; ÎLE--(on Ile Saint Louis)--19bis, rue Saint Louis en l%26#39;Ile, 75004--



http://www.saintlouisenlile.com/





CATHEDRAL de NOTRE DAME de PARIS--



http://www.cathedraledeparis.com/FR/0.asp





DIOCESE de PARIS--



http://catholique-paris.cef.fr/index.php




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buckeyeinla -



phread%26#39;s suggestion of the church of St. Louis en l%26#39;Île would be a good choice, just a short walk from the Marais. The church of St. Paul and St. Louis on rue St. Antoine would perhaps have a more %26quot;parish church%26quot; and less touristy feel to it.



I do not know which if any of the restaurants in the Marais would be open besides Bofinger. If you want to get lost in a crowd Bofinger would be a good place. If you are looking for somewhere a bit smaller and more intimate here are a few suggestions. You could call them and ask if they will be open.



Le Rouge-Gorge on rue St. Paul is a tiny place, really more a wine bar than a full-fledged bistro. The food is really excellent and just a litlte out of the ordinary. There are some great wines that the charming and friendly owner is happy to serve by the glass. 01 48 04 75 89



Baracane on rue des Tournelles is another little place where I%26#39;ve always found the food to be good and the welcome warm. 01 42 71 43 33



On the lovely pl. du Marché Ste. Catherine the Bistro de la Place 01 42 78 21 32 is a lively and friendly place with good food. Do NOT confuse it with the next door bistro, Le Marché, on the corner of rue d%26#39;Ormesson that I would not recommend.



The Auberge de Jarente on rue de Jarente 01 42 77 49 35 and Vins des Pyrénées on rue Beautreillis 01 42 72 64 94 are a bit bigger than the others and a bit %26quot;heartier%26quot; both in terms of the ambience and the menu. I like them both but they may not be what you are looking for.



Last, not anywhere near the Marais, Au Petit Marguéry on bv. du Port Royal on the southern edge of the 5th (actually northern edge of the 13th) 01 43 31 58 59 is a place I love. The food is great. The Grand Marnier soufflé is a splendid (if clichéd) special occasion dessert, and I don%26#39;t know a restaurant anywhere that has a more deft touch at making everyone feel welcome and %26quot;special.%26quot;



The Rouge-Gorge would be my first pick in the neighbourhood, Au P.M. if you wanted to travel further afield. But I don%26#39;t know if either will be open...




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Thank you for all the information! I never expected everyone to be so kind. This is the first trip to Paris for our teenagers so we want them to have a great experience without killing our wallet.





We are staying at Hotel Des Grandes Ecoles, Latin Quarters. It is one of the few hotels we found that offer a quad room. Have any of you all heard about this hotel?





Again, thanks for all the advise.




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Here is the link to threads for Hotel des Grande Ecoles





http://tinyurl.com/tx3uz




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The %26#39;quad%26#39; at the Hotel des Grandes Ecoles should be adequately spacious enough for a four people. It%26#39;s been a few years since I saw the %26#39;quad%26#39; room but I recall that the way that it was made-up at the time was with a double bed and a pull-out slepper sofa.





http://www.hotel-grandes-ecoles.com/





TA Past Guest Reviews %26amp; Candid Photos--(What ya%26#39; see, is what ya%26#39; get)



tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187147-d194227…